Awwwww That's okay, JH. At least you didn't give me one of these.....
Frannie
i've been re-thinking about what to say when jw's come knockin'.
i've thought about what the scriptures say about jesus' words to the pharisees and think perhaps i might say, "i don't have any interest in the doctrines and writings of the scribes and pharisees of the wts.".
or maybe i could just say, "yall're just wts nazis and you look down on everyone else as if they were jews during wwii, so i'd prefer not to converse with you.".
Awwwww That's okay, JH. At least you didn't give me one of these.....
Frannie
i've been re-thinking about what to say when jw's come knockin'.
i've thought about what the scriptures say about jesus' words to the pharisees and think perhaps i might say, "i don't have any interest in the doctrines and writings of the scribes and pharisees of the wts.".
or maybe i could just say, "yall're just wts nazis and you look down on everyone else as if they were jews during wwii, so i'd prefer not to converse with you.".
I've been re-thinking about what to say when JW's come knockin'. I've thought about what the scriptures say about Jesus' words to the pharisees and think perhaps I might say, "I don't have any interest in the doctrines and writings of the scribes and pharisees of the WTS."
Or maybe I could just say, "Yall're just WTS Nazis and you look down on everyone else as if they were Jews during WWII, so I'd prefer not to converse with you."
What are your ideas for handling jdubyas when they come knockin' on your door or you run into them on the street? Gimme your best shot.
Something perhaps brief, but to the point that will pack a wallop and maybe make someone of them think for a change.
Frannie
oh, i remember in my early jw days, i didn't miss an occasion to preach at work.. i was working as electrician in a paper mill, and i remember talking to a colleague about the generation that wouldn't pass...... gee, if he saw me today, i,m sure he would remember what i told him, and i wouldn't know what to say.... .
Did you hafta remind me of that???Well, what are Friday evenings for ?
Okay, JH. Give it up! Did YOU "preach" at work?
Edited to add: Nevermind I just re-read your post.
Frannie
is dfing someone religious persecution?.
i do not believe what the wts says, i do not want to belong to that org.
because of that, i no longer have contact with my family.
hafta do what they're toldNobody hazta do anything.
or they suffer the consequences, too.Big whoop. Suffer the consequences and do the right thing. If everyone suffered the consequences there would be no such thing as shunning.
IP_SEC, I think it's that they're afraid of those consequences and the upheaval in their lives that prevents them from thinking for themselves as you do, chere. That fear overshadows a lot of people's gumption.
Frannie
can a person become anointed before being baptised?
Also remember when Philip baptised the Ethiopian after explaining some biblical scriptures. The Ethiopian was not baptised or anointed with the Holy Spirit. That explains alot here, everyone is not baptised with Holy Spirit as the Holy Ones.
Unbaptised, also, I want you to realize that when I spent 3 months writing back and forth to the GB about these scriptures as compared to the WTS's oppositional doctrinal baptism requirements, the GB grew more haughty with each succeeding letter, until they finally haughtily dismissed all the scriptural evidence I presented to them in favor of going on about their royal bizness......
Frannie
oh, i remember in my early jw days, i didn't miss an occasion to preach at work.. i was working as electrician in a paper mill, and i remember talking to a colleague about the generation that wouldn't pass...... gee, if he saw me today, i,m sure he would remember what i told him, and i wouldn't know what to say.... .
Lawdhammercy, JH! Did you hafta remind me of that??? j/k
Actually, it's a wonder I didn't get my butt fired off every job I had while a practicin' patriot of the WT-BATS. I'm sure I irritated the hell out of everyone who made the mistake of strikin' up a casual conversation with me.
Frannie
some beer on the go here, amy winehouse playing, it's friday, nice weekend off from work to look forward too, what could be better eh?
what you all up to tonight you filfthy apostates?
hope you having a good time too.
Hey, Scoob! How're ya doin'? Long time, no see. We're fine. Crabby Pants just got back from the ball game. He had to take his truck, cause his Vette's in the shop. I'm sittin' here jammin' with R&R and R&B oldies and nibblin' on some biscotti I made. What're you up to tonite?
Frannie
recently i have been reading a book, nearly done now, called "under the banner of heaven".
it is about some fundamental mormons (the ones who practice polygamy andwho are not accepted as lds among regular members of the slc based church.. in this book, while explaining the attempted insanity plea for a fundy lds murderer, they had several psychiatrists (both lds and non lds) explaining insanity.
the argument i thought was interesting was when the defense brought up his very unorthodox beliefs (they sounded nutty to me-and would be considered so by most lds folks also).
LOL! I think it's a "Catch 22" situation, chere. You're crazy if you believe and you're crazy if you don't.
Frannie
is dfing someone religious persecution?.
i do not believe what the wts says, i do not want to belong to that org.
because of that, i no longer have contact with my family.
Any given person, JW or not has the freedom of choice to associate with you. If they choose not to based on religious belief's they have the freedom of choice.
I don't agree, fifi40. Jdubyas pretty much hafta do what they're told or they suffer the consequences, too. Fear is a big tool wielded by the WTS heirarchy. Jdubyas shun either to please everyone else and make themselves look good or because they're afraid not to. Depends on their individual character. Either way, the WTS gets what they want.
Frannie
i love this quote and often find myself using it on the kids and my dog.
it is from cats and dogs and james earl jones doing the voice over.
"not for you young puppy, for you the war is over".
FROM "Steel Magnolias":
Shelby: "Daddy always says 'An ounce of pretention is worth a pound of manure.' "
FROM Erin Brockovich:
Kurt Potter: Wha... how did you do this?
Erin Brockovich: Well, um, seeing as how I have no brains or legal expertise, and Ed here was losing all faith in the system, am I right?
Ed Masry: Oh, yeah, completely. No faith, no faith...
Erin Brockovich: I just went out there and performed sexual favors. Six hundred and thirty-four blow jobs in five days... I'm really quite tired.Ed Masry: In a law firm you may want to re-think your wardrobe a little.
Erin Brockovich: Well as long as I have one *ss instead of two I'll wear what I like if that's alright with you? You might want to re-think those ties.Erin Brockovich: Did they teach you how to apologize at lawyer school? 'Cause you suck at it.
Erin Brockovich: Bite my *ss, Krispy Kreme!
FROM "A Fish Called Wanda":
Wanda: To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I've known sheep who could outwit you. I've worn dresses with higher IQs, but you think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape?
Otto: Apes don't read philosophy.
Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it!FROM "Pretty Woman":
(Kit is trying to cheer up Vivian.)
Vivian: "Tell me one person who it's worked out for."
Kit: "What, you want like a name? A name, a name, the pressure of a name... I got it. Cindafuckin'rella"FROM "As Good as it Gets":
Frank: I grew up in hell! My grandmother has more attitude than you!
Carol: Fucking H.M.O. bastard pieces of sh*t!
Beverly: Carol!
Carol: Sorry.
Dr. Martin Bettes: It's okay. Actually, I think that's their technical name.Melvin Udall: I might be the only person on the face of the earth that knows you're the greatest woman on earth. I might be the only one who appreciates how amazing you are in every single thing that you do, and how you are with Spencer, "Spence," and in every single thought that you have, and how you say what you mean, and how you almost always mean something that's all about being straight and good. I think most people miss that about you, and I watch them, wondering how they can watch you bring their food, and clear their tables and never get that they just met the greatest woman alive. And the fact that I get it makes me feel good, about me.
FROM "Miss Congeniality":
Gracie Hart: I am in a dress, I have gel in my hair, I haven't slept all night, I'm starved, AND I'm armed! Don't MESS with me!
Gracie Hart: Donut Nazi.
Eric Matthews: Operation "Thong" has commenced.
Gracie Hart: Why don't you stun-gun yourself?
Eric Matthews: I knew she'd like that one.From "Brave Heart":
Stephen: [To William Wallace] The Almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're f*cked.
[To William.]
Stephen: If I risk my neck for you, will I get a chance to kill Englishmen?
Hamish: Is your father a ghost, or do you converse with the Almighty?
Stephen: In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God.
[Looking heavenward.]
Stephen: Yes, Father.
[To William and his men.]
Stephen: The Almighty says don't change the subject; just answer the f*cking question.FROM "Tombstone":
Doc Holliday: I'm your Huckleberry.